Ranchu & SVR Discussie Topic

[Brian]

Dat mag ik niet zeggen hier op het forum.
Maar heb je 4a500 euro over voor een visje?

[Kingyo]

Waarom mag je dat niet zeggen? Zover ik weet is het gewoon een naam en adverteren we geen sites of niks toch?


We praten over Geert Coppens, de man is een zeer gerespecteerde Ranchu kweker uit Belgie, zit al meer dan 10 jaar in het vak en heeft Ranchu's zwemmen waar de Aziaten zelfs jaloers op zijn.


Alleen praat je dan over prijzen boven de 600 euro voor een Ranchu, en dan heb ik het over zijn mindere vissen(zelfs zijn mindere zijn van top kwaliteit begrijp me niet verkeerd.)

[BioTek]

misschien als ik eens de lotto win....

[FancyGoldfish]

Deze soort vissen heb ik ook gezien en ook ingekocht.

Prijs valt mee geloof ik?

[Kingyo]

Ah, dat is mooi Dino.

Ik dacht dat je zei dat je momenteel geen ranchu's meer ging uitkiezen, gelukkig heb je dat wel gedaan dan.


Dus je hebt topview ranchu's weten te bemachtigen als ik het goed begrijp?

[FancyGoldfish]

Ik heb het over svr heb ook niet vee kunnen halen. Wel een aantal 30cm. Die zijn niet goedkoop helaas. Heb wel wat kleiner gekocht.

Zijn er nog liefherrs voor lionchus heb hele mooie gezien namelijk maar weet niet of er markt hiervoor is?

[Gast]

Hier een fan van Lionchu, maar mijn verhaal ken je al

[Ferry]

Hieronder 2 gekopieerde posts, wellicht interessant voor sommigen (edit* bron: Sunking - kokosgfforum ):

As we all know the ranchu and lionhead are all egg goldfish, and the ranchu is derived from lionhead by Japanese. Since these two kind of goldfish looks extremely similar, lots of starters find it hard to tell the differences between the two kinds of fish. So I will use a very classic picture to illustrate the differences. The original Chinese version of this article is :
http://bbs.cnfish.co...%2B%BB%A2%CD%B7
and I have been allowed by the administrator of cnfish.com to translate it into English here.


The upper two are ranchu and the lower 3 are lionhead. The main difference of the lionhead and ranchu is the ratio of their head and their body(tail unincluded).
The head of ranchu is not as big as that of lionhead, and when you look at a ranchu from side,the concentration of your view is its belly rather than its head. The ratio of the length(horizontal) of ranchu's head and its body is about 1:3 and the ratio of the height(vertical) of ranchu's head and its body is about 1:2, because ranchu has arched back and deep belly. The angle between ranchu's tail and its body is typically smaller than 90 degree.
On the other side, the lionhead has very big head (or more wen their head in your words). The ratio of the length of the lionhead's head and body is about 1:1 to 1:1.5, and the height of its head and its body are about the same, because compared to the ranchu, the lionhead has a straight back.So when your look at a lionhead from side, the concentration of your view is its head, rather than its belly.The angle between lionhead's tail and its body is typically bigger than 90 degree, and its tail and fins are often bigger than that of ranchu.
To some extent, the ranch can be described as a branch of the lionhead, because according to the ratio of head and body and the color of the head, there are lots of subtypes in the lionhead family, there's even a type called "cat lion" which has a exaggerate head much bigger than its body. And since ranchu has just be developed no more than 100 years, the gene of this type is still unstable, only a small percentage of the ranchu fry will grow into qualified ranchu. That's why the price of ranchu is quite high compared to other fish.
Apologize for my poor English.

[Ferry]

In my last topic, I mentioned that sometimes the standard for a single type of gold fish can vary worldwide, and one famous example of this phenomenum is the different standards about ranchu in China, Japan and Thailand.
We all know that ranchu was originaly developed by Japanese breeders and was further developed saperately by the enthusiasts in China, Japan and Thailand. Today, I will use some pictures to illustrate the differences among these three type of ranchu.


The top one is Chinese ranchu, you can see from the picture that Chinese ranchu has well-developed wen and usually has a round head. Chinese ranchu has highly arched back and round belly. The back of Chinese ranchu is the broadest among the three, and its belly is also the biggest. Chinese ranchu is a typical SVR
The middle one is Japanese ranchu. It has square head and its wen is highly developed around its mouse. Compared to the round body of Chinese ranchum, the Japanese ranchu has a rather squre body in top view. Its back is least arched and also narrowest among the three. The belly of Japanese ranchu is the smallest among the three type. Japanese ranchu has the most beautiful tail among the three type, I don't know how to describe the difference of the tail in English, so you may have to understand it from the picture.Japanese ranchu is a type TVR.
The bottom one is Thai ranchu. This type of ranchu is well characterized by the extrordinarily developed wen around its mouth. It has the most arched back and the other characteristics are just a mixture of Chinese ranchu and Japanese ranchu.

The next three pics are Chinese ranchu






The next three are Japanese ranchu






The last two are Thai ranchu




All these three types are beautiful fish, won't you say so?

Acknowledgment
The pictures are supplied by bbs.cnfish.com

[ZSjonnie]

De kop/lichaam ratio is verouderd in dit stukje.
Het is juist graag gewild dat Ranchu's een lange kop hebben.

En een bronvermelding is wel zo netjes