ryukin standaard + kleuren info

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ryukin standaard + kleuren info

Bericht door Rex Hunt » 19-02-2013 12:24

hier jan:
All fins should be paired except for the Dorsal, and the Dorsal fin should be very high and stiff, like the crest on a Roman Soldier's helmet, in a curving mohawk-like shape. Large Dorsal fins are desirable on Ryukins so long as they do not droop over. Ryukins have no standard fin type

kleuren:
e goldfish, like all other fish, is a complex living being. Contained within the dermis, or lower skin layer of the goldfish, is a substance called guanine. This is a silvery-white colour and very reflective. It is this guanine which reflects light through the transparent scales of the fish to give it a shiny appearance. Generally, goldfish are placed in three separate groups dependent on the amount of guanine present and how it is disbursed within the fish. We know these groups as Metallic, Nacreous and Matt.

In the metallic group the guanine is placed in the upper areas of the dermis, allowing good reflection of light through the scales and giving the fish the appearance of burnished metal. Nacre means mother-of-pearl so, taking things literally, a nacreous fish has a mother-of-pearl sheen to it. This is caused by the almost complete absence of the upper layer of guanine allowing the layers situated deeper beneath the dermis to show through and giving the fish its silky lustre. A matt fish has a complete lack of guanine and, as it has no reflective tissue, a totally matt appearance all over its head and body.
a). A Metalic tuh exhibits no Matt scaling
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http://www.fbas.co.uk/Goldfish%20Book.PDF
en nog wat meer bronnen maar als jij er tegenin gaat weet ik niet meer wat ik nu voor waarheid aan moet nemen. vandaar dat ik om jou bronnen vraag.

en anders een standaard in elkaar zetten en die aanhouden.
want hoe meer ik zoek hoe meer je vind, en het is allemaal net even anders.

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Bericht door ZSjonnie » 19-02-2013 17:26

All fins should be paired except for the Dorsal, and the Dorsal fin should be very high and stiff, like the crest on a Roman Soldier's helmet, in a curving mohawk-like shape. Large Dorsal fins are desirable on Ryukins so long as they do not droop over. Ryukins have no standard fin type
Ik zie hier niets tussen staan over die 45 graden hoek van de staartvinnen?
Het zou mij trouwens sowieso verbazen als jij een bron weet aan te tonen die het wel over een bepaalde hoek heeft van de staartvinnen tov de staartwortel (verticaal gezien)..

A Metalic tuh exhibits no Matt scaling
Hier geef je zelf al aan dat dit bij Metallic vissen geld.
Bij een Nacreous vis geld dit niet. Nacreous is altijd een combinatie van mat en metallic. Bronnen heb ik daar nu even niet voor zoals ik al eerder zij, maar google maar eens op wat nacreous precies inhoud. Je komt het dan vast wel tegen. Kijk anders eens naar alle echte calico's, dan zie je het al snel genoeg.
Goudvis kwekers zijn het niet altijd eens met goudvis importeurs die het niet altijd eens zijn met goudvis houders.
Ieder heeft een ander doel, standpunt en perspectief. Hierdoor is een mening niet per se fout.

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Bericht door Rex Hunt » 19-02-2013 18:39

mee eens. het eerste heb ik fout gepasted. excuses.

2e,
nogmaals, ik snap metallic mat en nacreous maar een metallic vis kan geen mat er tussen hebben volgens die standaard.. dat staat er echt letterlijk.

waar wij nu botsen is het feit dat Nacreous een type is. begrijp ik.
maar die vis is dat niet. dat is een metallic vis, volgens mijn bronnen, en daar mag geen mat bij. dat vat jij niet volgens mij. maar kijk zelf maar ik ben het op meerdere bronnen tegen gekomen dus ik neem dat nog even voor waar aan.

er even vanuit gegaan dat ik totaal fout zit:

1. Nacreous: a combination of matt (non-reflective) and metallic scales. Calicoes are generally considered nacreous, but I have seen calicoes with no metallic scales. Iris may be either reflective or black or a combination. A test cross will reveal the true genetics. Matt x matt = all matts. Nacreous x nacreous = 50% nacreous, 25% metallic, 25% matt.

dan nog is die min goed gezegd. want die vis is dit ook niet. want ( en dit kan niet helemaal met zekerheid zeggen door onduidelijke foto's) heeft die vis op bepaalde plaatsen helemaal geen schubben.

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Bericht door ZSjonnie » 19-02-2013 21:06

Als jij dit ziet als een metallic vis dan begrijp ik je, maar ik kon aan die slechte foto's niet zien dat dit een metallic is..

Ik heb ook compleet metallic calico's gezien, maar dat is keihard selectief kweken..
Goudvis kwekers zijn het niet altijd eens met goudvis importeurs die het niet altijd eens zijn met goudvis houders.
Ieder heeft een ander doel, standpunt en perspectief. Hierdoor is een mening niet per se fout.

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Bericht door Rex Hunt » 19-02-2013 21:47

nee daarom twijfelde ik ook aan mezelf, en toen jij er tegenin ging al helemaal.

leermomentje dit.


duidelijkere foto's vragen.

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